Durbah's strengths [Archive] - AlMaghrib Forums

MrEspy78

12-11-2003, 09:52 PM

Alhamd...been busy with alot of things...i dont know what type of work you wanna get started on...but i'll take your initiative by stating some things (however apparent they may seem)...inshAllah let's make preparations of what needs to be done...

1) Goals
2) How to achieve these goals?
3) Who will help with this endeavor?

Some other things that popped into my mind...let us make contacts and strong relations with the other tribes and utilize their strengths and learn from their weaknesses and vice versa...

Allah's Apostle said, "A Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, so he should not oppress him, nor should he hand him over to an oppressor. Whoever fulfilled the needs of his brother, Allah will fulfill his needs; whoever brought his (Muslim) brother out of a discomfort, Allah will bring him out of the discomforts of the Day of Resurrection, and whoever screened a Muslim, Allah will screen him on the Day of Resurrection." [Vol 3: #622]{Bukhari}

so let's help the other weaker tribes out and learn from them what little we can...(im "joshing")...the better the competition the more it will push us...let us compete for aakhirah....
:-)
inshAllah...we ALL have one goal...

My two cents....

Muhammad Alshareef

12-11-2003, 11:03 PM

so let's help the other weaker tribes out and learn from them what little we can...(im "joshing")...the better the competition the more it will push us...let us compete for aakhirah....
:-)
inshAllah...we ALL have one goal...
Ma sha Allah, that is 'exactly' the type of spirit I was hoping most would catch on to. The purpose is not to attain tribalism when Islam has made us one. Indeed that kind of tribalism is wretched and forbidden.

The purpose is to create a spirit of focused dedication and competition in worshipping Allah and serving humanity.

May Allah keep you as a valued 'warrior' for the tribe of Durbah! :)
My four cents worth :P

working4islam

12-12-2003, 09:14 AM

1) Goals

to get the highest rating possible in all of the following...
1. turnouts for the class
2. turnouts for the exams
3. highest exam averages
4. highest display of perserverance (based on acedotal data)
5. most productive afterclass da'wah projects.
6. tribal member khidmat (service) to other students
7. quantity and quality of gem boards

2) How to achieve these goals?
make a game plane...
i suggest we divide these amognst the members we have so far...then we can recruit more ppl.

3) Who will help with this endeavor?
everyone from durbah (including ohio and md :) )

MrEspy78

12-12-2003, 04:06 PM

Umer listed:

to get the highest rating possible in all of the following...
1. turnouts for the class
2. turnouts for the exams
3. highest exam averages
4. highest display of perserverance (based on acedotal data)
5. most productive afterclass da'wah projects.
6. tribal member khidmat (service) to other students
7. quantity and quality of gem boards

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1) How do we gauge where we are in turnout?
2) High exam turnout...that can be arranged by having a "Marriage Lecture" given by our charitable teacher after exams are over!!!
3) High exam averages by listing the other Tribes EXAM score AVERAGE outside the classroom doors so we now what we're competing against.
4) Perseverence - this could be done in countless ways...how about setting up study sessions or study packets in preparation of the course.
5) Ameer - should take survey of various projects that have been initiated and give a status report to the AlMaghrib ameer....(we will get more done when we know there is an outside set of eyes watching over us)
6) Can't think of anything...im a selfish guy...
7) gem boards - alhamd...they are our strength...so let's analyze what we did so good and try do outdo ourselves...
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Umer also said:
i suggest we divide these amognst the members we have so far...then we can recruit more ppl.
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Good idea - I think Moustafa or you should be our Tribal Ambassador since you know people from the other tribes having attended the classes outside of our area.
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Let the Competitions BEGIN!!!!

My Two cents ( and time for my nap )....

UmmSarah

12-13-2003, 08:41 AM

Assalaamu alaikum,

According to my understanding, the title for your ameer should be "Ameer Qabeelat Durbah". For short you can say "Ameerul Qabeelah" or "Ameer Durbah".

"Ameerul Durbah" is not correct. Durbah is a proper noun and does not need the "al" to make it definitive.

You say "Ameerul Qabeelah" because without the "al" you don't know which qabeelah you are talking about. You can't say ameer of tribe , you have to say he's the ameer of THE tribe. Compare that with the ameer of the Durbah....doesn't work. You say The Ameer of Durbah, with no the.

Umm Sarah
Qabeelat Hosna

mostafa

12-14-2003, 05:22 PM

Muhammad Alshareef

12-14-2003, 06:04 PM

Asalaamu `alaikum,

Go ahead and add me to the count of Durbah inshaa' Allah. I know I've been kind of Missing In Action lately, but I hope to change that in the coming days and weeks leading up to the class inshaa' Allah.

Asalaamu `alaikum,

Mostafa Khalifa

P.S. -- Can we issue challenges/competitions in addition to the list mentioned in the forum for the class?
Missing in action? I was going to organize a s.w.a.t rescue operation to bring you back! But...welcome to the forum! We are honored to have you.

If there was anyone who had 'Quraish-like' influence over Durbah it is you. May Allah continue to give you strength in your influence and benefit to the community. (These compliments will take effect after I beat you up this weekend, in sha Allah. Do you got boxing gloves and pads?)

You are most welcome to issue challenges. Qabeelat Thabt has decided their Ameer FIRST! Ameer Qabeelat Thabt is awaiting your challenge :p

mostafa

12-14-2003, 07:58 PM

Missing in action? I was going to organize a s.w.a.t rescue operation to bring you back! But...welcome to the forum! We are honored to have you.

If there was anyone who had 'Quraish-like' influence over Durbah it is you. May Allah continue to give you strength in your influence and benefit to the community. (These compliments will take effect after I beat you up this weekend, in sha Allah. Do you got boxing gloves and pads?)

You are most welcome to issue challenges. Qabeelat Thabt has decided their Ameer FIRST! Ameer Qabeelat Thabt is awaiting your challenge :p

First, I forfeit the right to padding or protection of any sort. I deserve anything and everything I have coming to me (and probably moreso).

Second, should I wait until each of the Qabaa'il have chosen an Amir before issuing a challenge?

Third, does the challenge have to be related to the class (exam grade average, etc.)?

Jazaak Allahu khayr.

P.S. -- I like the name Durbah .... it has a nice tribal rhythm to it :)

Abu Noor al-Irlandee

12-18-2003, 02:27 PM

mostafa

12-18-2003, 04:13 PM

As salaamu 'alaykum,

As a person attending the class inshAllaah in New Jersey, but who doesn't live there, I don't know what my status is. Maybe I could be considered a "halif"
of Durbah.

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/glossary/term.HALIF.html

In any event I wanted to introduce myself to the members of Durbah. I have attended the Tafseer Juz 'Amma, Usool al Fiqh and Fiqh ad-Da'wah classes of AlMaghrib -- each time in a different location.

Salaam,

Abu Noor al-Irlandee

Abu Noor,

Get ready to enjoy the protection of the people of Durbah, ya halif. :) If you need anything, please don't hesitate to contact any of the Durbah locals inshaa' Allah.

Asalaamu `alaikum,

Mostafa

Al Baraa

01-12-2004, 06:30 AM

remember you not only belong to a tribe...you are also the essence of the tribe..everyone is!!!!!

TAKBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

ALLAHuAKBAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Muslimah786

01-12-2004, 10:56 AM

Assalaamu 'Alaikum,
I am sorry, I didnt know where to post my question. Anyway, I am in the middle of typing all the lecture notes. Can anyone tell me all the name of the battles that Muhammad Al-Shareef mentioned in his lecture on saturday as well as sunday. JazakAllah Khair. Also, if any of the sisters need me to e-mail the notes to them, please let me know.

-BintAbbas-

01-13-2004, 03:21 PM

1) Goals
2) How to achieve these goals?
3) Who will help with this endeavor?
AssalamuAlaikum,
Just wanted to make a few humble comments.

I think that the fact that only around 5 people are posting on this site is a symptom of a major weakness. Most people dont even know about the board and come to the seminar so that they can learn and leave...there isnt much of an interest in 'competition' with other tribes. If you want people to compete you have to give them interest in competing, you have to make them a bit jealous and motivate them with more praise and reward.

MashaAllah, for many the promise of Allah (SWT)'s pleasure is enough, others need the promise of the pleasures of Jannah, while still others need the promise of earthly rewards. The weak must be accomdated as well as the strong. Motivate all three of these groups by appealing to what they are looking for...even if its just a bumper sticker.

People need to be informed of the categories they are being ranked in and know where they stand quantitatively in relation to the other tribes. Make bar graphs. Give them reminders during every class. Talk to as many people personally as is possible so that there is no diffusion of responsibility. Bring the competition to a personal level for them and remind them that this is something they are trying to do and prove in front of Allah (SWT). Bring it to the point where they are ashamed of losing in the eyes of Allah (SWT).
Why dont I see many postings by females? Honestly brothers, around 50% of the class is female and unless you find a way to motivate them somehow your healthy competition wont go anywhere. For those of you that have sisters or wives (ahem Moustafa) that have excellent leadership skills (I repeat, ahem Moustafa), perhaps you should coordinate with them and have them motivate and deal with the sisters. Honey attracts more flies than vinegar, and in that vein, successful motivation requires comraderie and kindness. Because there is no informal intergender interaction in our blessed deen, sisters are needed to motivate the other sisters. Women can be very very competitive so dont leave this resource untapped. Get your wives/sisters on their case.

WasalaamuAlaikum

"And keep your soul content with those who call on their Lord morning and evening, seeking His Face;
and let not your eyes pass beyond them, seeking the pomp and glitter of this life;
nor obey any whose heart We have permitted to neglect the remembrance of Us, one who follows his own desires, whose case has gone beyond all bounds."

( Surah Kahf:28 )

Muhammad Alshareef

01-13-2004, 04:55 PM

Women can be very very competitive so dont leave this resource untapped. Get your wives/sisters on their case.
I hear ya, well said! Qabeelat Thabt (College Park's) tribe's strength is in sister participation. If Durbah matches that strength ... well ... the tables may turn.

... an exciting finale.

When Qabeelat Thabt takes the exam this Sunday, we may start putting up the tribal points.

I'm praying that everyone does well.

Ambarin

01-13-2004, 08:31 PM

Asalaam WalyKum,

I'm really not sure where to post my 'thoughts/concerns/questions' on this forum. I'm a tad bit confused on how the wonderful world of forums actually work, so please bare with my handicap.

Choosing an Ameer within our group wasn’t an easy task. Alhumdullilah we/I did get to see a glimpse of how difficult this process was. Amongst the politeness, qualifications and the heavy responsibility of being a leader, it indeed wasn’t an easy task. There is that sense of uneasiness who do you really want to entrust your tribe’s pride and honor onto? Will that individual represent your values or will he/she guide you on the righteous path. Oodles and oodles questions arise, but the emotions are kept in silence.....

This is my first experience with Almaghrib, and that too with Br. Muhammad Alshareef. I’m very impressed. It takes a lot to captivate a class and it takes even more to make a class enthusiastic about the topic. (I’m only speaking for myself, and for those who want to get on my case please take a number at the left.) I’m ecstatic about what I’m learning and about to learn.

I was pretty bummed out hearing that Br. Alshareef is returning back to Canada? For a moment I really felt that void. I walked in class knowing, this class is impermanent just as life, yet the deeds we do in this dunya last with us till the Hereafter just as the deen we learn from this class. BUT to know it was this short? A part of be question, who is going to lead me? I finally found a teacher who can get through to students like me, but has to leave. I wonder how must the companions felt when they had an inkling knowing that the Prophet (pbuh) would eventually leave them? I wonder how they felt after He left? Was it that void? That confusion, who’s going to lead us? Me?.....

Just some thoughts..

-BintAbbas-

01-13-2004, 11:53 PM

When Qabeelat Thabt takes the exam this Sunday, we may start putting up the tribal points.

I'm praying that everyone does well.

AssalamuAlaikum,
Let us ALL make sincere dua that our brethren in Qabeelat Thabt do well on their exam and retain the 'ilm they acquired and use it to benefit the ummah and themselves (amin)...and inshaAllah Allah (SWT) will bless us with the same when our time comes...

...for the believers never cease to make dua for the believers...

WasalaamuAlaikum

"If the whole of humanity were to unite in order to benefit you, they will not be able to benefit you except that which Allah has decreed...if they were to unite in order to inflict any harm upon you, they will not be able to do so except that which Allah has decreed...The pens have been lifted and the pages have become dry"

-Muhammad (SAW)

MrEspy78

01-14-2004, 09:56 PM

While one may look at things negatively ("excessive amount of time"), one could look at it conversely and say that it is the only Tribe that is taking pride in the class and the tools given to work with by our Ameer al Forums...

so in the words of our dear friend and fellow student, al Baraa, "DURBAHHHHHHH, DURBAHHHH"
As for our esteemed Sheikh having to leave us...it will be a great loss indeed...but he will leave us better off and in a better state inshAllah than we were in before....

Salaams...

Al Baraa

01-14-2004, 10:01 PM

As for our esteemed Sheikh having to leave us...it will be a great loss indeed...but he will leave us better off and in a better state inshAllah than we were in before....

i couldnt agree more....

While one may look at things negatively ("excessive amount of time"), one could look at it conversely and say that it is the only Tribe that is taking pride in the class and the tools given to work with by our Ameer al Forums...

so in the words of our dear friend and fellow student, al Baraa, "DURBAHHHHHHH, DURBAHHHH"

everybody join in...say it with me...

DURRRBAAAAAAAHH!!!....DURRRBAAAAAAAHH!!!....DURRRB AAAAAAAHH!!!....

TAKBIIIIIIR!!!!!

Muslimah786

01-26-2004, 11:22 AM

Muhammad Alshareef

02-06-2004, 10:55 PM

Assalaamu Alaikum,
I have just found out something very interesting and I would like to share with the people of Qabeelat Durbah. The universal truth is that we are unbeatable because guess what? We have got a QURAYSH in our tribe.
"People will follow the Quraysh in good and in evil" Something interesting came to mind when i read this. Rasul Allah - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - said to his Qabeelah, "Do not let the people come on the day of judgement with their deeds and you (my family) come with nothing more then your lineage."

Actually, I think half of Qabeelat Hosna is Quraish (I think Pakistan is all from Quraish last I heard :)). Sayyid Bhai.

Muhammad Alshareef

02-08-2004, 07:44 PM

Since this thread is talking about Durbah's strengths, I would just like to take a moment to congratulate the Ameer of Qabeelat Durbah for surpassing me in number of forum member referrals!

Mostafa = 13
me = 10

Well done Mostafa! Should I give a Durbah takbeer? Bilal?

Al Baraa

02-08-2004, 08:36 PM

TAKBIIIIIIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw....how do you get a forum refferal?

UmmSarah

02-08-2004, 09:31 PM

TAKBIIIIIIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw....how do you get a forum refferal?
You tell your friends how wonderful it is to be a part of the Al-Maghrib forums, and tell them to type in your name as the one who reffered you when they sign in as a new member.

Allahu Akbar!

willow

02-10-2004, 05:25 PM

AssalamuAlaikum WaRahmatullah, Whats the GEM BOARD?

(Ambasador of Durbah for UK:)

Muhammad Alshareef

02-10-2004, 05:27 PM

TAKBIIIIIIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw....how do you get a forum refferal?
Mostafa has a trick on how to do it. I'll let him explain.

working4islam

02-10-2004, 05:44 PM

AssalamuAlaikum WaRahmatullah, Whats the GEM BOARD?

(Ambasador of Durbah for UK:)

sister, you dont know what you are missing. :D

gem board is this big wihte board (nicely decorated, sometimes) on which we write our *gems*. gems are like really cool things you learn from class. at break time, you go (i mean rush) to the gem board and write your gem on it.

gem is a higher level apoi.

(i know you're gonna ask wahts apoi...so an apoi is 'an amazing peice of information')

working4islam

02-10-2004, 05:47 PM

Actually, I think half of Qabeelat Hosna is Quraish (I think Pakistan is all from Quraish last I heard :)). Sayyid Bhai.

aye, c'mon now ustaadh, if i cant poke fun at egyptians, you cant do it to pakis

Muhammad Alshareef

02-10-2004, 05:52 PM

aye, c'mon now ustaadh, if i cant poke fun at egyptians, you cant do it to pakis
Ok, c'mon, tell me the truth Umer: Are you Sayyid or no?
If you are, then I rest my case :)

willow

02-10-2004, 05:59 PM

sister, you dont know what you are missing. :D
Trying to make me feel jealous i guess... I'm gonna tell the Ameer"!

gem board is this big white board (nicely decorated, sometimes) on which we write our *gems*. gems are like really cool things you learn from class. at break time, you go (i mean rush) to the gem board and write your gem on it.
It must be full then? Is it a wipe-clean board? So how do the gems count? I'd probably write everything I learnt that I could remember. Is there 2 one for sisters and one for bro's? Describe the scene, I wana re-live it, (just Kiddn)

mostafa

02-10-2004, 06:16 PM

AssalamuAlaikum WaRahmatullah, Whats the GEM BOARD?

(Ambassador of Durbah for UK:)

Asalaamu `alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu Ambassador Willow (notice the spelling of Ambassador ;) ),

Glad to see you've made it to the Durbah forums, Ambassador Willow :)

Gem boards are physical poster boards that we have during the classes (in NJ they are by the snack tables we go to during our breaks). Students write down their thoughts and reflections on the material they have learned at any point in the class. I will be posting Durbah's gem boards this week inshaa' Allah (gem boards are one of the many strengths of Durbah!).

Sr. Willow, if you could e-mail me mostafa@eden.rutgers.edu, we can begin to discuss what your role as Durbah Ambassador to the UK will entail inshaa' Allah. Jazaaki Allahu khayr (and keep posting!). :)

-BintAbbas-

02-10-2004, 09:45 PM

I think Pakistan is all from Quraish last I heard :)

AssalamuAlaikum

Hey, if anything thats a good thing since it is an indication of the reach and depth of muslim conquest...not to mention respect for the Quraish. AllahuAkbar :)....

Side note--I remember my mother telling me that up until her parents generation actual family trees would be exchanged with marriage prospects to weed out the 'posers' and ensure the preservation of Quraish blood on the subcontinent...I am wondering to what degree the shari'ah allows for lineage to be a factor in marriage. I have read various views...perhaps Ustaadh could kindly shed some more light on this?

WasalaamuAlaikum

This world is but a moment, so make it [a moment] of obedience."
--Imam al Shafi'i

Muhammad Alshareef

02-11-2004, 05:37 AM

AssalamuAlaikum

Hey, if anything thats a good thing since it is an indication of the reach and depth of muslim conquest...not to mention respect for the Quraish. AllahuAkbar :)....

Side note--I remember my mother telling me that up until her parents generation actual family trees would be exchanged with marriage prospects to weed out the 'posers' and ensure the preservation of Quraish blood on the subcontinent...I am wondering to what degree the shari'ah allows for lineage to be a factor in marriage. I have read various views...perhaps Ustaadh could kindly shed some more light on this?

WasalaamuAlaikum

This world is but a moment, so make it [a moment] of obedience."

--Imam al Shafi'i

They take it pretty seriously in the Hanafi Madhhab (which is the popular madhhab in those countries).

One can marry who they wish, so if someone wants to take this into factor, it's their choice (just like they prefer tall over short or green eyes over brown eyes).

However, when they impose it on their children - that is when it has issues. Indeed the most blessed mate is the one who is most righteous and closest to Allah - that's what we should all aim for. And success will be theirs.

And Allah knows best

working4islam

02-12-2004, 05:39 PM

Ok, c'mon, tell me the truth Umer: Are you Sayyid or no?
If you are, then I rest my case :)

hehe,
i dont know if i really am,

but if i was, then your son would have competition ;) hehe

Muhammad Alshareef

02-17-2004, 01:26 PM

AlMaghrib Forums Useless Trivia:
This thread is the most highly viewed thread in the entire forum! It beat the 'Who's Sas?' thread.

working4islam

02-17-2004, 01:42 PM

durbah is taking over everything...

...one thread at a time

MrEspy78

02-17-2004, 09:03 PM

who's Sas?

btw...Maryland Food Bank ROCKS!!!

Hillside Food Bank - Durbah will CONQUER!!!

(InshAllah)

Bint Edris

02-18-2004, 07:10 AM

AlMaghrib Forums Useless Trivia:
This thread is the most highly viewed thread in the entire forum! It beat the 'Who's Sas?' thread.

WE ROCK...... ITS INEVITABLE!!!

working4islam

02-18-2004, 07:42 PM

who's Sas?

sas is the guy with the big afro dog :D
(that'll get him on our thread)

mostafa

03-09-2004, 05:05 PM

sasjamal

03-09-2004, 08:49 PM

sas is the guy with the big afro dog :D
(that'll get him on our thread)
lol yah it worked alhamdullulah

Al Baraa

03-09-2004, 09:26 PM

al-liwaa' Inshaa' Allah!!!

BY ALLAH!!...INSHAA' ALLAH!!!!!

Danish Hasan

03-11-2004, 04:49 PM

Salaam,

Alhamdulillah i see that yall are werking really hard to catch up with us. Remember Only the PAtient will achieve VICTORY!!!

Al Baraa

03-11-2004, 10:17 PM

Alhamdulillah i see that yall are werking really hard to catch up with us. Remember Only the PAtient will achieve VICTORY!!!

INSHALLAH we will be patient and INSHALLAH we will attain victory.

AL-LIWAA' INSHALLAH!!!!

Danish Hasan

03-14-2004, 04:41 PM

Salaam, i think yall need to change gears, soon inshallah youll need the swiftness and speed of khalid bin waleed(ra) to catch up w/ us(Qabeelah Al-Hosna)!!

Irtiza Hasan

03-15-2004, 07:12 PM

Asalaamu `alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu,

Another strength of Durbah is that they are quick to answer the call of their Ameer ... at least most have been so far. Keep the responses to my call (sent over e-mail) coming!!!

AL-LIWAA' INSHAA' ALLAH!!!

Mostafa, I love it. It is great to have a qabeela that is quick to answer the call of the Ameer. I would even be jealous of this, except that Hosna usually does not even require for me to make a "call". Alhamdullillah, they initiate so many great projects on there own.

We have a brother who initiated Team Libaas (t-shirts, apparell), a sister for special projects, a brother who coordinates financial aid, a sister who does records/gem boards/history, a brother who is the student rep, a brother who does marketing/media, a sister's advisor, a brother/sister to welcome new students, a brother who does outreach to nearby cities...

Yes, Hosna is a wonderiful Qabeela, walhamdullillah.
The Hosnawiyeen will stand second to nobody insha allah,
in the competition for good deeds!

The a'imma will be from Quraish (from the hadeeth),
and the best AlMaghrib students will be from Hosna (insha allah)!!!

Al-Liwaa' Insha Allah!!!

working4islam

03-15-2004, 08:49 PM

Mostafa, I love it. It is great to have a qabeela that is quick to answer the call of the Ameer. I would even be jealous of this, except that Hosna usually does not even require for me to make a "call". Alhamdullillah, they initiate so many great projects on there own.

We have a brother who initiated Team Libaas (t-shirts, apparell), a sister for special projects, a brother who coordinates financial aid, a sister who does records/gem boards/history, a brother who is the student rep, a brother who does marketing/media, a sister's advisor, a brother/sister to welcome new students, a brother who does outreach to nearby cities...

Yes, Hosna is a wonderiful Qabeela, walhamdullillah.
The Hosnawiyeen will stand second to nobody insha allah,
in the competition for good deeds!

The a'imma will be from Quraish (from the hadeeth),
and the best AlMaghrib students will be from Hosna (insha allah)!!!

Al-Liwaa' Insha Allah!!!

mashaAllah, its nice to see you on our fanous thread. THIS is where the fun is, good to see you've realized taht ;)

and
mabrook on your new position,
but i have to warn you, dont get too comfortable in that position :)
(when almaghrib becomes part of my enterprise, we may or may not decide to keep you ;) :D)

Irtiza Hasan

03-15-2004, 10:31 PM

mashaAllah, its nice to see you on our fanous thread. THIS is where the fun is, good to see you've realized taht ;)

and
mabrook on your new position,
but i have to warn you, dont get too comfortable in that position :)
(when almaghrib becomes part of my enterprise, we may or may not decide to keep you ;) :D)

I hope you decide to keep me insha allah. I just spoke to Mostafa for like an hour on the phone. I can see Durbah and Hosna are more alike that different! Of course Hosna might be slightly better, but that is okay insha allah.

;-)

working4islam

03-15-2004, 11:23 PM

I hope you decide to keep me insha allah. I just spoke to Mostafa for like an hour on the phone. I can see Durbah and Hosna are more alike that different! Of course Hosna might be slightly better, but that is okay insha allah.

;-)

hehe, i didnt mean to scare you about the job-thing
(its like an inside thing with ustadh and me)

but you seem like a cool brother (esp since you can put-up with mostafa for an HOUR :D), inshaAllah will meet you when i come down to diyar texas for a class.
i heard one of your strengths is khidmah...we'll see what you guys are made off ;)