View Full Version : What did you learn from LOVE NOTES?
tameem-adarami
04-09-2007, 05:26 PM
I learned that Men and Women have much to learn about each other. Each one teach one and respect to be respected. Agree to disagree and stuff like that. And uh stop typing when me wife is talking to me for 5 minutes and listen to her cry...I mean talk.
I learned that shaykh Yaser is fluent in a language called men.
He is also fluent in the language of women. What I mean by that is, each time he would read off the lists the sisters made, he would 'translate it.'
Example:
Shaykh Yaser: "Group 2 in the most loveable traits activity says "Defend me" What the sisters are trying to say here is defend me against in laws/mother in law etc. When people come in between, be on her side. They didn't write that, but, basically, this is what she is saying.
I loved it.
The group next to mentioned how he kept hitting it right on the ball, as if he was reading our minds.
I don't know if anyone else caught on to that, but I was amazed!
Alhamdulilaah, this was extremely beneficial. Especially when he would decode what the brothers were saying for clueless ppl like myself. I'd think 'wow, really?'
Can someone post the activity answers if they're typed up already? Both activities and the answers the brothers and sisters gave..
tameem-adarami
04-09-2007, 05:49 PM
That's a GOOD idea sister.
Kaltham
04-09-2007, 07:21 PM
The shaykh was reading them a bit fast but i managed to type the majority walhamdulilah, i can post it insha Allah...
Fii Amaani'Laah
Kaha already did, but can you post the other activity.
This one has been posted http://forums.almaghrib.org/showthread.php?t=20257
Abu Hurayrah
04-09-2007, 07:42 PM
I have to agree with Hala's point. The "translations" he performed were really helpful for the brothers - well, at least for me.
I think I benefitted the most from the psychology issues - the Men/Mars and Women/Venus kinds of topics. Knowing, for example, that when a woman is talking (i.e., for talking, not business), that, in itself, is what her goal is - conversation. I just explained that to my mother, father, and brother tonight at dinner. I will try it out on my mom, since she's the only one available to be my guinea pig. I can only imagine how she's going to interpret the different things I start doing around her, where it makes sense. She'll have to do...for now...
Kaltham
04-09-2007, 07:47 PM
Brothers Love
1. obedience
2. show care and good news and delay bad news after long work day.
3. surprise gifts
4. respectful
5. welcoming to guests
6. sexual acts
7. teaching children
8. playfulness
9. weight and figure
10. surprise with gifts
11. cook good food
12. impress her husband, dressing and smelling
13. obeying with kindness
14. aggressive sexual behavior
15. intellectual companionship and discussions
16. sexy
17. maintain household
18. allow second wife
19. take care of my parents
20. making dua for me
21. showing intimate interest physically and emotionally. (men expect a reward of physical)
22. valuing his opinion
23. beautify herself
24. reminding in deen
25. cares about his satisfaction
26. hustle to bed when called
27. loo
28. absolute obedience
29. message feet with lotion
30. you already know with a big smile
31. giving amessage
32. cooking for me
33. taking care of the kids
34. taking care of house responsibilities
Sisters Love
1. listening.
2. speaking gently, don’t yell and use your power
3. spending quality time
4. words of encouragement
5. playfulness
6. shows affection
7. surprises with gifts and unexpected actions
8. cooks for me
9.
10. consult with me and respect my opinion
11. mercy
12. respect
13. honesty
14. praying
15. patience
16. listening
17. more expressive and thoughtful
18. being more responsible
19. caring enough to urge wife to become more religious. (both men and women expect each other to remind and help one another)
20. being romantic and intimate
21. kind words
22. understanding and forgiving
23. playfulness
24. gifts
25. verbal expression of love
26. volunteering to help
27. showing appreciation
28. physical contact
29. surprise kindness
30. talking. More conversation. (men get to the point, woman likes to express herself. Wants to mention everything in detail, guys just wanna get to the point)
31. intimacy
32. being playful
33. surprise housework
34. giving compliments, beautiful and I love you
35. playful
36. prepare his breakfast
37. pray together qiyam
38. spend time away from family
39. compliment her regularly. (men don’t usually see the details which she really want him to say something about, henna)
40. value her opinion and respecting her
41. spending quality time alone talking
42. message without feeling like it should lead to more
43. letting her know he appreciates her
44. sit and talk
45. flirting with and showing affection in public and private
46. learn what is sexual pleasing
47. good and frequent sex
48. foreplay start at breakfast
Brothers Hate
1. infidelity
2. gossiping
3. unappreciative
4. argumentative
5. laziness
6. baby’s momma drama
7. talking back: argumentative
8. wasting money
9. gossiping
10. sleeping early
11. disobedience
12. disrespect to parents
13. not dressing well
14. lack of deen for the family
15. asking for too much money
16. wining about unnecessary things
17. talking back too much
18. complaining about my mother
19. talking about other men. Comparing.
20. no backbiting
21. disrespecting family especially mother
22. not maintaining herself
23. lazy with deen
24. neglecting mother responsibility
25. bringing up past arguments
26. nagging
27. raising voice
28. comparing to parents
29. unappreciative
30. allowing suspicion to interfere with relationship
31. too controlling
32. not showing love to family
33. not forgiving past mistakes
34. arguments
35. using bedroom pleasure to get what they want
36. arguing
37. to be the boss in the head
38. putting me and the spot between her and mom
39. shopping excessively
40. ignoring the husband
41. nagging
42. lack of modesty
43. not expressing herself
44. rudeness
45. listening to friends
46. not caring for children
47. disrespectful to the parents
Sisters Hate
1. rude and bossy
2. neglecting
3. unappreciative
4. not showing love
5. not standing up for us. (she wants her to side with her against the family)
6. not being generous or giving
7. secret wife
8. comparing wives
9. abuse of any kind
10. threatening to take a second wife
11. threatening to divorce her
12. to cheat on her
13. disrespectful
14. belittling her
15. ordering around the house when he can do it himself.. (Men know they can do it themselves, but they love your touch to it, men should ask in a nice way, say honey please and she’ll even get you water with lemon)
16. does not spend time with children
17. not helping in the house or clean after himself specifically after shaving
18. control
19. belittle their feelings
20. don’t listen
21. comparing to other women
22. lack of appreciation
23. dishonesty
24. hygiene
25. being left alone
26. wandering eyes
27. hurtful words
28. not listening
29. abusive
30. addictive
31. needy
32. dominating and abusing his power
33. dishonesty
34. selfish
35. abusive
36. not fearing Allah
37. smoking
38. telling people what happens in the house
39. lies
40. ignoring opinion
41. unfaithful
42. criticizing my role as a wife
43. too much jealousy
Kaltham
04-10-2007, 12:03 AM
I was talking to a cousin of mine about the stuff covered in the class and then she said to me that we are being set up for failure. I was thinking that you only set yourself up for failure if you do not seek to understand what it is that you are getting yourself into and if you really expect to fail, you will just lead your marriage to it...
Fii Amaan'Laah
craving-jannah
04-10-2007, 01:50 AM
I was talking to a cousin of mine about the stuff covered in the class and then she said to me that we are being set up for failure. I was thinking that you only set yourself up for failure if you do not seek to understand what it is that you are getting yourself into and if you really expect to fail, you will just lead your marriage to it...
Fii Amaan'Laah
That is so true.
And these are some of the excuses people use not to seek proper knowledge. Like they say, ignorance is bliss.
eternalmuslimah
04-10-2007, 08:47 PM
i learned quite a few things alhamdulillah
but i mean i guess some of my beliefs were more conservative than the shaykh but subhaanAllah now i better understand many issues
i mean because of where i was raised etc. i felt that i was not open about many things but now i know better
Kaltham
04-11-2007, 02:50 AM
i learned quite a few things alhamdulillah
but i mean i guess some of my beliefs were more conservative than the shaykh but subhaanAllah now i better understand many issues
i mean because of where i was raised etc. i felt that i was not open about many things but now i know better
I know exactly what you mean.. That's why this class is a blessing from Allah Subhannahu wa Ta'ala sis. We all have our opinions and desires, sometimes we are either too extreme or too liberal.. Islam is perfect because it is always in the middle way.
What is also amazing is the fact that there is a Hadeeth or Ayah that regulates all the aspects that the brothers and sisters listed in terms of what they love and what they hate from their spouse. For example, the brothers were consistent in wanting their wives to be obedient and their interest in satisfying their physical human nature. We learn from the Sunnah that these are the rights of men upon women. The sistes consistently asked for listening to her and helping her in her house duties. We learn from the life of Rasool Allah that he gave his wives the attention they needed and he also helped them in the house.
Subhanna Allah, Muhammadun Rasool Allah means he is the only one worthy of followship and look at the guidance that is brought to us through him.
Fii Amaani'Laah
eternalmuslimah
04-11-2007, 12:44 PM
I know exactly what you mean.. That's why this class is a blessing from Allah Subhannahu wa Ta'ala sis. We all have our opinions and desires, sometimes we are either too extreme or too liberal.. Islam is perfect because it is always in the middle way.
What is also amazing is the fact that there is a Hadeeth or Ayah that regulates all the aspects that the brothers and sisters listed in terms of what they love and what they hate from their spouse. For example, the brothers were consistent in wanting their wives to be obedient and their interest in satisfying their physical human nature. We learn from the Sunnah that these are the rights of men upon women. The sistes consistently asked for listening to her and helping her in her house duties. We learn from the life of Rasool Allah that he gave his wives the attention they needed and he also helped them in the house.
Subhanna Allah, Muhammadun Rasool Allah means he is the only one worthy of followship and look at the guidance that is brought to us through him.
Fii Amaani'Laah
:D
yeah i do believe i was a lil extreme about some things but alhamdulillah for this class!
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