Are we like them..

[a3644us]

Bismillahir Rahmaanir Raheem

44. Enjoin ye righteousness upon mankind while ye yourselves forget (to practise it)? And ye are readers of the Scripture! Have ye then no sense?


this ayat clearly shows that people who don't implement what they say to others, themselves are not liked by Allah. i want to know are we also address in this ayat when e.g we post threads on the forum and don't implement thmselves completely. is it obligatory/must that you first implement yourselfand then do 'Amr Bil Ma'aroof'.
Jazakum Allah Khair

[Muhammad Alshareef]

It is a must that that when you tell people something you should practice it yourself.

Some people say: well, I don't do good so I should never call people to do good.
But that is incorrect!

They MUST do good and they MUST call and encourage people to do it as well.

wAllahu a'lam.

[a3644us]

Some people say: well, I don't do good so I should never call people to do good.
wAllahu a'lam.
jazakum Allah KHIAR BROTHER. what if the situation is like this that, our intentions towards doing good is 'good' but we' r having trouble implementing it ourself currently or not that perfect in it. should we then call others to good. or for example we call other towards good and they say' why should i listen to you, you do such and such yourself'.
e.g we posts articles on the forum containing advices and naseehas and good things but we r not that good in implementing them ourslves. shouldn't we then stop??

[3lmir Salam]

Sh. Muhammad, often times as you might already know, people that want to change and make themselves better usually wind up missing out on the opportunities to improve themsleves (e.g. going to the masjid, going to a conference, giong to a lecture) because they know that the ppl that they'd be going with or many of the ppl that they'll be seeing there are hypocritical in that they go to these things often, but they themselves don't follow a thing that they learn.

For example, i was just talking to a brother yesterday and I asked him why he didn't go to a conference, and he replied saying something like..."well, i actually wanted to go to this conference to gain something ISLAMICALLY for once, but i know that these guys x and y are going there to meet the girls, and i'm not up for that." This brother might've been correct about what he was saying regarding them, but i replied to him saying soemthing along the line "well, the truth is that almost everywhere you go hoping to increase your imaan, you will see ppl there gathering for the wrong things, but if you refrain from going to these things, you'll never end up benefitting yourself." and i further advised him to go ahead and go with those brothers next time if he has to, but not necessarily spend much time with them at the conference. Do u think the advice i gave him was valid? Do u have any suggestions that might make the advice more powerful?

[a3644us]

also, for doing 'nahih an allmukar', stopping others from doing bad, does we have to be good and practicing well before doing that just as we have to be doing good deeds and implementing ourselves before telling others?????

[Muhammad Alshareef]

I remember in Tafseer class in Madinah the statement of some of the Ulamaa' of the past that said that a person, even if they are commiting Zina, should encourage the man/woman to fear Allah and cover themselves (even though they themselves are partaking in the sin)!

Now, that sounds extreme, but it is the extreme of how necessary it is to call to Allah.

If one commits the sin and then calls the people to it (which is what's required of them), BUT they themselves commit it, then it'll be one of two things:

1. eventually they guilt will pile up and they will do tawbah OR
2. eventually the guilt will pile up and they will go further away from Allah. Perhaps even, in the extreme, commit Kufr or commit suicide. Regardless of whether it reaches this stage, they will live a life of sadness.

Then you ask: Well, what if they just don't call AT ALL to Allah! Then they are already away from Allah and getting further, may Allah protect us. Not calling to Allah is not an option.

Re: the guy who says he's not going to a conference because x and y are going, no doubt x and y are sinful for that. HOWEVER, no soul will carry the burden of another soul. Just because someone else is sinful is not an excuse for someone to abandon that which Allah commanded, i.e. seeking of knowledge.

If he chooses not to attend and instead seeks knowledge and good companionship from somewhere else, then that should be alright.

wAllahu 'alam.

[mumina]

Some people say: well, I don't do good so I should never call people to do good.
But that is incorrect!

They MUST do good and they MUST call and encourage people to do it as well.

AsalamuAlaikum......but isnt it hypocrisy....If you do not practice it then u cannot implement it because u r being a hypocrite.....isnt that what the hadith says...???

[UmmSarah]

Well, if we have to call and we shouldn't call unless we practice, I guess that only leaves us one option.... That we start practicing AND calling to the best of our ability, Wallaahu A'lam. What's holding us back?

[mumina]

exactly...its a beter role model for the one to whom u tell to...

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[AbdulHasib]

Well, if we have to call and we shouldn't call unless we practice, I guess that only leaves us one option.... That we start practicing AND calling to the best of our ability, Wallaahu A'lam. What's holding us back?

There was an incident w/ Imaam Malik(rahm.) where he wanted to advise the freeing of slaves. So he went and BOUGHT a slave first, then freed him, then gave the recommendation to free the slaves.