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rayees
06-19-2008, 12:37 PM
Was Salim ibn Abdullah ibn Umar one of Imam Malik's teachers?

salaam
Rayees

Yaser Birjas
06-19-2008, 01:57 PM
Imam Malik rahimahullah, narrates on the authority of Salim the son of Ibn Umar through Imam Mohammad ibn Shihab Az-Zuhri, not directly from him. So the chain will be: Malik -Az-Zuhri- Salim - Ibn Umar.
Salim died 107 or 106 H. and Imam Malik was born 93 H. but didn't start his serious studies until Salim was already dead.

Imam Malik however, narrates directly from Nafi' the servant of Ibn Umar. Even Imam AlBukhari rahimahulla counted this chain as the most authentic one: Malik - Nafi' - Ibn Umar.
Nafi' died 117 H. living enough for Imam Malik to join his circles of hadith.

And Allah knows best.

rayees
06-20-2008, 12:09 AM
JazaakAllahu khairan Shaykh Yaser. May Allah increase your knowledge.

I was late for the session (visiting Jarir bookstore) which covered Imam Malik. I got some notes from a brother in the class
for the session I came late and there was a mention of Salim. The following was what I copied:

"One of them was Salim ibn Abdullah ibn Umar.
Imam Malik: He used to go to the halaqas and he used to take a thread along with him. Whenever the hadith is narrated, other students used to write it down. Imam Malik used to memorize it and as he memorized each hadith, he tied one knot in the thread. And once the halaqah is over, he used to review the number of knots in the thread and tried to recollect all the hadith. If any one of the hadith is missing, he would go back to other students and get that missing hadith.

The second of his teachers was Rabi’a ibn AbdurRahman ... and then it mentions ibn Hurmuz"

Is it ibn Shihab az Zuhri that is possibly spoken in this context?

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Rayees