Are skittles halal

[mradamjee]

AsSalamAlykum

from the description of the course:

"Don't you know that's haram? It has gelatin!"

"No brother, I called the company they said it 'beef' gelatin."

"Really, does that mean the gelatin in Skittles is halal to eat?"

so what did Sh Yasir said in the class, is it ok to eat?

jazakallah khair

[BrotherAsim]

Precious Provisions to come on January 9-11th Insha'Allah

[sadiav]

You can find Skittles without any gelatin!

[Ahmed Ibn Hassan]

You can find Skittles without any gelatin!

True.. there are some without gelatin..

There's this statement i found out on a website explaing about gelatin in Skittles.

Skittles candies contain gelatin.

"Gelatine or Gelatin - A product obtained (by boiling in water) from the partial hydrolysis of collagen derived from cartilage, bones, tendons and skin in animals. Vegetable gelatine is similar to animal gelatine in its function and is obtained from gluten of wheat or other cereals. Fish gelatine also exists. Concerned Muslims should find out the source of gelatine used. Alternatives such as Agar Agar, Carrageen and Gelozone exist."

However, always check and inspect and ask, but personally i would just avoid them in totality, it's one of the many those gray candies. Wallahu al'aam this is only a personal choice.

ahmad

[Ahmed Ibn Hassan]

Here is what some scholars have to say:
The examples are numerous and they extend beyond food: Yesterday a man was kaafir and going towards Hell, today he is Muslim, so what is the ruling upon him? It is based upon what he is today.

We must be careful when we call things haraam because it is a form of thulm (oppression). Scholars have said that it is worse that you make something halaal to haraam rather than making something haraam to halaal. This deen Allah has made yusr (easy) let us not make it 'usr (hard).

Wallahu 'Alim.

Jazkallah kahir very well thought out.. it helped.

[Nafsul-Awwaamah]

Allaahu Akbar. I miss Shaykh Jibaly and his family :( (well some of them). But Alhamdulillaah they're in a better place (Madinah). And subhanAllaah!!! Just the other day, my mom was talking to me about the whole grapes > wine > vinegar scenario. She got happy when I showed this to her :)

[iss ME! zahweee!]

Although.... I absolutely love Mike and Ike, no mess with gelatin there(<---one good reason to love it). :]oooohhh mike & ike is the best! did you know you can get like a 5lb bag at BJ's? (wholesale place) :D
yummmm
http://bulkecandy.com/images/mike_and_ike_g100918.jpg

[NasirMuzaffar]

Ikhitlaaf, as expected !

Read what Sh. Yasir has to say about gelatin: http://forums.almaghrib.org/showpost.php?p=369091&postcount=2

[Anti_Shaytan]

I heard they now make Gelatin-free Skittles.

[Hafsa_H]

What is gelatin? As Oxford dictionary of science defines: "A colorless or pale yellow, water-soluble protein obtained by boiling collagen with water and evaporating the solution. It melts when water is added and dissolves in hot water to form a solution that sets to a gel on cooling." (page 290)

Is this a chemical change or is this not a chemical change?I'm a former chemistry student, and from what I learned, this is NOT a chemical change. Rather it's a PHYSICAL change as Sh. Yasir mentions in the post above.
To understand the difference between a chemical reaction and a physical change, I suggest that you do some research. A physical change is reversible and the substance itself has not changed but has just altered composition. As in water to ice. Or mixing sugar to water. Evaporating the water will leave you with the sugar crystals again. Whereas a chemical reaction is a process in which one substance is transformed into another; and is hence irreversible.

This is just what I believe.
Wallahu Alim

[Afeefa B]

I recently went to a Muslim Party and found a bag of skittles. The host had informed me that the new Skittles were free of gelatin- to make sure I read the ingredients and it does say that it is Gelatin free. Alhamdullilah :]

[NasirMuzaffar]

how do we reconcile yours and Sh. Yasir's opinion with what is said in the document attached, which says that chemical changes occur in the gelatin manafacture process ?

I'm a former chemistry student, and from what I learned, this is NOT a chemical change. Rather it's a PHYSICAL change as Sh. Yasir mentions in the post above.
To understand the difference between a chemical reaction and a physical change, I suggest that you do some research. A physical change is reversible and the substance itself has not changed but has just altered composition. As in water to ice. Or mixing sugar to water. Evaporating the water will leave you with the sugar crystals again. Whereas a chemical reaction is a process in which one substance is transformed into another; and is hence irreversible.

This is just what I believe.
Wallahu Alim

[Afiya]

I recently went to a Muslim Party and found a bag of skittles. The host had informed me that the new Skittles were free of gelatin- to make sure I read the ingredients and it does say that it is Gelatin free. Alhamdullilah :]
we first discovered these with the crazy cores packets in the hotel gift shop at route 114... alhumdulillah =)

[AbdArRahman]

I will try and explain what little I know of chemistry. From what I read into the manufacturing process at http: // www . enotes . com/ how-products-encyclopedia / gelatin(remove all spaces).

It seems the gelatin that is made is still from the original collagen, thereby not having undergone chemical change. The only step which involves chemical change is treating with acid or alkali and that removes impurities but the original collagen does not seem to react with either material.

However roasting and boiling do bring about biochemical(not to be confused with chemical) change as it results in the denaturation of proteins. This does not mean that the protein has changed in chemical composition but it no longer performs the function it used to. Yani the bonds hold the entire 3d structure of the protein have been broken and the domains may no longer be attached to each other in the proper configuration.

That being said, I do not know if biochemical changes also fall under the same fiqh principle mentioned in the previous post.
Wallahu Alam

Rabbi zidni 'ilma.

[Abu Ammaar]

I have spoken with a number of biochemists about gelatin. In particular, there was a brother who was doing his post-doc in Houston and wrote an academic paper about aspects of gelatin. His conclusion (and all others whom I've spoken to) is that the process of extraction does not actually change the gelatinous substance that is required by the food manufacturers - all it does is transfer it from the bones to a powder.

Hence, based upon their analysis, as of yet I follow the position that gelatin would be haram if is comes from an impermissible animal.

However, I concede that some people understand this extraction process to be a chemical change; in that case, for those who follow that position, this would imply that the final product is pure.

Once again, the difference of opinion between these two camps revolves, not around fiqh, but around chemistry!

Allah knows best...

Yasir

[NasirMuzaffar]

JazakAllah Khair.

Any way for others to read that academic paper ?


I have spoken with a number of biochemists about gelatin. In particular, there was a brother who was doing his post-doc in Houston and wrote an academic paper about aspects of gelatin. His conclusion (and all others whom I've spoken to) is that the process of extraction does not actually change the gelatinous substance that is required by the food manufacturers - all it does is transfer it from the bones to a powder.

Hence, based upon their analysis, as of yet I follow the position that gelatin would be haram if is comes from an impermissible animal.

However, I concede that some people understand this extraction process to be a chemical change; in that case, for those who follow that position, this would imply that the final product is pure.

Once again, the difference of opinion between these two camps revolves, not around fiqh, but around chemistry!

Allah knows best...

Yasir

[sadiav]

I heard they now make Gelatin-free Skittles.

They do....I think it is usually the mini-Skittles, the ones that come in the tube packs. I havent seen them in main grocery stores, but have found them in some Dollor Stores

[iss ME! zahweee!]

i actually just bought the new skittles and yes, it specifically says they are gelatin-free
yum! the sour ones (in the green packet) rock

[Hafsa_H]

how do we reconcile yours and Sh. Yasir's opinion with what is said in the document attached, which says that chemical changes occur in the gelatin manafacture process ?In the attached document you posted, I still do not see how it goes through any chemical change. The processes described only seem to be physical changes that the collagen is going through.

When in doubt, it's always best to stay away.
Anyways, I've seen Halal (gelatin-free) skittles in Walmart.

[muhsinmuttaqi]

Assalamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullahee wa Barakatu


Can someone explain me what skittles are?

[AkheeAB]

Assalamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullahee wa Barakatu


Can someone explain me what skittles are?
...wa alayka salah..lol. it is a candy. they look like m & m. you can google about if, i fyou want to find out more information on it in sha Allaah. baraka Allaahu feek.