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fearhopelove
07-16-2009, 07:34 PM
I'm hoping one of the shuyookh will see this, but anyone with daleel can help!

I have a question regarding a couple. A brother I know has been dating this girl for a couple of years. She recently converted and alhamdulillah he has become a more observant Muslim than before and they have decided to stop dating.

They decided they want to get married eventually but came across some obstacles.

The sister's parents (who are not Muslim) have been very disapproving of her conversion and hence she has lead them to believe she's nonobservant (or something along those lines) in order to prevent them from disowning her since she is not yet independent.

Her parents knew she was dating the brother. Both of them seem indifferent to the fact that she has been dating him and would continue dating him. Ironically, when she introduced the idea of marriage to him, they were very disapproving. Her father has gone as far as saying he doesn't want her to marry a Muslim.

My understanding is since her family is not Muslim, she can accept the nikkah on her own or choose her wali.

The couple are curious: Is a nikkah void if her family are not informed until a later date?

JAK Ya'll

Abdul Razzaq
07-16-2009, 08:06 PM
You're asking would the marriage be void if they didn't tell her non muslim parents?

fearhopelove
07-16-2009, 08:20 PM
Yusuf513Khan:

Thanks, I posted it there as well.

Abdul Razzaq:

Yes.

Abdul Razzaq
07-16-2009, 08:28 PM
to my understanding technically a non muslim parent has nothing to do with the nikkah because the sisters wali has to be a muslim. In this case since she is a convert and has non muslim parents either the imam or a respected member of the community would be her wali inshallah.

we can disobey our parents if they are trying to stop us from practicing our religion.

So it wouldn't be void if she did it in secret but it may not be the wises thing to do but on the other hand she has to protect her deen and if that is the only way to then....

Allah Alaam

fearhopelove
07-16-2009, 08:38 PM
That's my opinion as well, but they're still contacting some shuyookhs.

Jazaak Allah khayr.

Side note:

I love Infowars!

Waleed Basyouni
07-22-2009, 10:25 AM
Since the father is not Muslim and he refused to marry her to a Muslim and against her Islam there is no doubt that such father has no walaiyya. In this case she can ask the imam to be her wali or any of the Muslim leaders in her area. My advice is that she needs to work with her family to accept tha fact that she is Muslim and respect her choice in life becasue I dont want her to lose her relationship with her family if she just goes and marries against their will even if it is techinically correct. This sister needs to make sure that he is worth that sacrifice because the last thing she would want to happen is to have an unsucccessful marriage or divorce (Allah forbid), and then her family might use this against her and her deen. And both of them need to repent to Allah (swt) from the sin of dating so that Allah(swt) can bless their life or marriage.

fearhopelove
07-22-2009, 01:24 PM
Since the father is not Muslim and he refused to marry her to a Muslim and against her Islam there is no doubt that such father has no walaiyya. In this case she can ask the imam to be her wali or any of the Muslim leaders in her area. My advice is that she needs to work with her family to accept tha fact that she is Muslim and respect her choice in life becasue I dont want her to lose her relationship with her family if she just goes and marries against their will even if it is techinically correct. This sister needs to make sure that he is worth that sacrifice because the last thing she would want to happen is to have an unsucccessful marriage or divorce (Allah forbid), and then her family might use this against her and her deen. And both of them need to repent to Allah (swt) from the sin of dating so that Allah(swt) can bless their life or marriage.

Jazaak Allah Khayr Sh. Waleed.

That seems to be the path they are pursuing isha Allah.