Hadith?

[Anti_Shaytan]

Salaam Alaikum,

I need to know if this is an actual hadith. I heard it once in a lecture but the speaker never said where it was reported.

It was about the "reward of those who don't listen to music". It was very long and I don't feel like typing it all out. But the jist of it was that the one who never listened to music in the dunya will get to ascend to the throne of Allah, and hear the Prophet Dawud (as), Muhammad (saw) and even Allah (swt) recite Quran for him.

Has anyone heard this? Is this authentic? Please share.

JazakAllahu khair.

[abu-abdullah]

Did you mean following hadith (if there is one)?
I am also curious to know the source and authenticity of this narration.

...There is a river in Jannah called 'Harwal'' where the Hur of Jannah will be singing on both of its banks. There is such attractiveness and sweetness in their voice that if you listen to it you would be transfixed. Allah will ask: "You want to listen to a voice better than this one?" They will exclaim: "Oh Allah! What could be better than this?" Allah will call out, "Oh Dawood! Come ahead and climb the mimbar and sing my hymn." His voice was so sweet that when he used to recite Zaboor the mountains used to sway with his voice, the animals of the jungle used to gather to listen to him and people used to faint. Dawood (alaihissalam) will sing and the people of Jannah will be stupefied and fazed. They will exclaim, "What can be better than this Oh Allah?" Allah will say, "Oh My beloved! Come ahead and climb the mimbar, you sing Oh Muhammad. Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wasallam)'s voice will echo everywhere and silence will prevail in every corner. Allah will ask, "You want to listen to something even better?" They will ask, "What can be sweeter than this?" He will say, (lam yabqa illa arhamurrahimeena) "Now I am the only one left." I will sing and He will call out, "Oh Ridhwan draw the curtains." Then He will reveal Himself and seventy thousand curtains will be raised. They will see their Lord, as in the hadith (innakum sa tarauna rabbakum kamaa tarauna alqamar lailatal badr laa tudha'amuuna fee ru'yatihee) "You will see your Lord as you see the moon on the full moon night and you shall not be wronged." Allah will say on that day, (marhaban bissadiqeen, marhaban bitta'aieena) "You are welcome Oh My truthful, Oh My obedient bondsmen. And when Allah manifests His glory they will be bewildered and dumbfounded. They will exclaim "Oh Allah we failed to give you your due of Ibadah, we were extremely forgetful/heedless. We were dishonest many times and lazy in prostrating ourselves in front of you. The angel who was in Sajdah ever since he was created, will set his eyes upon Allah, because Allah will reveal His glory for everyone, (only the prophet (SAW) has seen Allah before) Gibraiel, Mikail, Israfeel and Izraeel and all the angels of Allah's throne and the angels of the seven skies will set their eyes upon their Lord, and the people of Jannah will see Allah too. So great will be His manifestation that even the angels who had breathed their last in the state of Sajdah will say: “Ya Allah maa qadarnaka haqqa qadrik wa ma abadnaka haqqa ibadatiq" (Oh Allah! We did not pay esteem to you as you had the right to be esteemed and we did not worship you as you deserved to be worshipped) The people of Jannah will ask their Lord to allow them to perform just one Sajdah in respect of their lord, just once. Allah will reply: "qad wathatu anqum maunatassujud" (I have relieved you from the duty of Sajdah) Now you are my guest and I am your host, and a host never tells his guest to arrange his own food...

[MariamH]

Assalamualaikum,

I do not know whether the above hadeeth is authentic or not. However, I wanted to point out that in the post above it says 'Only the Prophet (saw) has seen Allah swt.'

I would just like to point out, with the limited knowledge that I have, that the Prophet (saw) never saw Allah swt while he (saw) was alive.

There's a narration that the sahaba asked Prophet (saw) if he (saw) saw Allah and the Prophet (saw) replied saying, 'How could I see, there was light everywhere.' [regarding miraaj]

Maybe the above post meant that the Prophet (saw) would have seen Allah before the people of Jannah?

Allahualam

[Abdul Razzaq]

Salaam Alaikum,

I need to know if this is an actual hadith. I heard it once in a lecture but the speaker never said where it was reported.

It was about the "reward of those who don't listen to music". It was very long and I don't feel like typing it all out. But the jist of it was that the one who never listened to music in the dunya will get to ascend to the throne of Allah, and hear the Prophet Dawud (as), Muhammad (saw) and even Allah (swt) recite Quran for him.

Has anyone heard this? Is this authentic? Please share.

JazakAllahu khair.
Allah Alaam but someone had called me up I believe asking me about the same hadith. Someone at a tableghi jamat masjid told them that so maybe if you can get your hands on on of their books you might be able to find a reference.

The Quran is an attribute of Allah but the arabic language is a creation so I don't know if it is befitting to say that Allah would recite the quran. or compare his recitation to anything created or understandable except by a type of revelation. then again we are talking about the unseen so I don't know. There is reference that Allah's speech is like metal chains over rock.

and if that hadith was authentic it seems that it would be more wide spread to show that music is haram.

[MariamH]

and if that hadith was authentic it seems that it would be more wide spread to show that music is haram.Excellent point

[Abd- Allah]

Assalam Alaikum

I agree with what brother Abdul Razzaq have said that the Quran is an attribute of Allah, but to further clarify, the words of the Quran in Arabic are the words of Allah. I'd rather not go into this issue in details because this seems like the door to 'ilm al-kalaam which we wouldn't want to enter, as Imam Al-Shafi'ee said about 'ilm al-kalaam that if you are correct (in what you say) in it then you do not get rewarded, and if you are wrong then you have committed Kufr. This shows the danger of going deep and talking about an attribute of Allah without knowledge.

As for the long "hadith" which brother abu-abdullah has quoted, then it seems like it is a combination of different bits and pieces from several hadiths, and most of it isn't authentic. Some parts though are authentic because they are found in other narrations, like the fact that the believers will see Allah in jannah. As for the part that says Allah recites the Quran in jannah, that is found in another narration which is Weak. Also the part which mentions the name of the Angel who is the keeper of Jannah as "Ridhwan", then his name is found in other narrations but none of them seem to be authentic. So overall this long "hadith" doesn't seem to be authentic, but some parts of it are found in other narrations which are authentic.

Allah knows best.