LOGO Draft

[Aboo Zaid]

assalaam u alaykum

Attached is a PDF with some more sample logos. These are a bit simplier than the one circulated on email you may have seen. Please give your feedback.

They are very rough drafts and theconversion to PDF jacked them up a bit. However, I think it is useful for you guys to say for example

"I kind of like number 4, but make the border have a different shape and see if you can but a shadow on the 'h'.

If you provide feedback like that, I can try and render your vision inshallaah. Of course if anyone wants to throw up some originals inshallaah, that is most welcome.

[UmmZahMar]

I vote for #2 (the one with the sword)

[RabizidneyILMA]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
assalamu alaykum warahmatulahi wabarkatahu,

jezak Allah khayr for your efforts.

the last two look like the hurley sign. i like the sword, mashaAllah. can we put 'where guidance strikes' underneath it, or coming from the tip of it someway?

[ummzaid]

No.3 is my choice, inshAllah.

[muttaqoon]

Assalamualaikum

Questions Bro:

This will be our logo that will inshAllah be on all of Qabeelat Haadi stuff?
And will it only be in black and white?

[Aboo Zaid]

Good Question Akhee.

A logo should look good in its most basic format so that for black and white materials, anything mass produced, non-electronic, the logo will still be clean inshallaah. However, that does not mean we can't jazz it up for electronic print and so forth.

We can change the color, the shadows, the outlines as needed inshallaah. The core attributes should still be there. However, we would certainly want to spruce it up for any electronic medium like the web site, newsletter, etc.

Does that make sense? Otherwise if we settled on a multi color, 3d image with shadows and subtleties, we would be disapointed for any black and white prints where those details would not only be lost, they would translate into fuzz and make the image look sloppy.




Assalamualaikum

Questions Bro:

This will be our logo that will inshAllah be on all of Qabeelat Haadi stuff?
And will it only be in black and white?

[UmmSana]

I vote for # 2 also, the one with the sword

[Aboo Zaid]

wa alaykum assalaam! I know what you mean Qutaiybah http://forums.almaghrib.org/images/icons/icon11.gif. Actually we may be able to use both 2 and 3. You see organizations do that. They have one way the write the whole name and then a small symbol with a letter or two. Since the H is the same in two and three, they do have a relationship.

Number one idea was taken from the Macromedia logo. Again, you guys can feel free to suggest modifications. If you have an idea for modifying it slightly or something new altogether, we can try and get that up and see what it looks like.



As-Salaamu Alaikum



Even with short list to pick from, it's hard to be convinced about just one!

I liked the one embedded with sward, but it's a little bit too large. The singe litter is also nice but not fully representative...

That seems complicated :-).. Ok! Casting my vote for number one :)

[Aboo Zaid]

Jazakallahukhair,

Simple and Strong inshallaah. That is why we thought the sword was one of the better candidates. Can you elaborate why you disdain it? Too cliched?
Inshallaah we'll work on some more.


Are these the only samples you have?

My feedback:

The one with the sword - toss it out entirely.

First, settle down on what kind of image you want the logo, the design, the colors, - what kind of image do you want the logo to present? Do you want it to be elegant? Sophisticated? Simple? Cartoonish? What do you want the viewer to see in his / her mind's eye when they glance at the logo?

It has to be distinct. Easily recognizable. This is a Qabeelat brand you are building. Make sure it Represents. If you are going to use an image in there, make sure its one that is built so strongly that others recognize the name merely by glancing at it.

Pick your colors especially well, and avoid the use of gradients and mid-tones.

If the name "Haadi" is going to be alongside or underneath a picture logo, then give thought to what font you use, because that impacts on the image that your logo projects.

[Aboo Zaid]

Here is different concept to add to the mix, thought of by UmmZaid -- Look forward to your feedback or suggested modifications inshallaah

[Aboo Zaid]

Anyone else want to comment on the Calfornia version? Here is another possible route inshallaah...

(need to zoom in on the PDF)

[bintAziz]

Assalamu Alaikum
the lighthouse, kind of connotes the east coast, more than the west. wAllau Alim

personally, i like the first one, on your first draft page, it was simple. cool and outside the box. just my two cents.

[LimaBean]

AA
My vote is for the one with the sword. it's simple and strong. the other's look good mashaAllah and I can tell you spent a lot of time on them, but i think they almost look like advertisments. Salam. May Allah bless you for all your hard work.

['Awn al-Ma'bood]

Too cliched yes.

Dont see the relevance with the qabeelah name.

And to be quite frank, you dont want to bother with any kind of negative attention it may attract from the wrong people.
I agree.

Also, are there any other suggestions other than "Where Guidance Strikes"?

- 'Awn al-Ma'bood

[Aboo Zaid]

Jazakumullaahukhair for all of your feedback. We actually have a slogan thread that is quite rich with suggestions. Please browse through it and you can see the thought behind this slogan.

Some of the other top slogans were:

Riding the Wave of Knowledge
Be Acknowledged
Oceans of Enlightenment
No Fruits No Nuts
Breaking Barriers

There were some other gems that I am missing. Please refer to the thread "Got Slogan" I personally prefer something with an edge to it over something cute or ultra clever and I think I have persuaded many to that approach. We want it to be inspiring over clever if there has to be a trade off. However a combination is ideal.

I am not an artist in real life, I just play one in Haadi out of necessity. However, if anyone can send sketch ideas, I can inshallaah duplicate them.
A Tribal twist is coming soon inshallaah...




I agree.

Also, are there any other suggestions other than "Where Guidance Strikes"?

- 'Awn al-Ma'bood

[Abu Imad-Addin]

Assalamu-alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatu!
.... Do you have to be a member of Qabeelat Haadi to vote, b/c I really like that sword logo, Masha'Allah, it's awesome, good-looking, and might I add SHARP!;)

[Aboo Zaid]

Your feedback is most appreciated, jazakAllaahukhair. Clearly, we need to use the preference of the qabeelah as how we decide. However, outside input really helps us make that decision and may inspire the right twist or new idea.

Okay, I am going out on a limb here. Sharing a bit of myself with this next effort. It is fine to hate it - just please don't laugh http://forums.almaghrib.org/images/icons/icon11.gif

Remember, I am just filling the artist role for now until we can groom some better people or latch on to someone who has some formal training.

Enjoy!


Assalamu-alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatu!
.... Do you have to be a member of Qabeelat Haadi to vote, b/c I really like that sword logo, Masha'Allah, it's awesome, good-looking, and might I add SHARP!;)

[UmmZahMar]

Your feedback is most appreciated, jazakAllaahukhair. Clearly, we need to use the preference of the qabeelah as how we decide. However, outside input really helps us make that decision and may inspire the right twist or new idea.

Okay, I am going out on a limb here. Sharing a bit of myself with this next effort. It is fine to hate it - just please don't laugh http://forums.almaghrib.org/images/icons/icon11.gif

Remember, I am just filling the artist role for now until we can groom some better people or latch on to someone who has some formal training.

Enjoy!
as Salaamu `aliakum

May Allah reward you for your efforts, Ameen.

These ones look nice actually---I just don't like the font for Haadi... It can be sorta hard to read and doesn't look very... "neat" (this is coming from the "neat freak" herself :o )

As for the last one... umm... how do I say this :) The colors kinda made me queasy!

Jazak Allahu KHairan...may Allah increase you in good, Ameen.

[Aboo Zaid]

http://forums.almaghrib.org/images/icons/icon7.gif I don't blame you for being quesy-- the colors are a random mix to try and encourage some thought about what we like and don't like. There are too many combinations and I have difficulty with colors. Hopefully people can visualize their favorite color scheme with their favorite slogan.

Question though -- you say it looks good but you don't like the font? The font is basically the logo in this case. Did you mean the font of the slogan? I know it can frustrate a neat freak but that is kind of the idea behind tribal.

This was an attempt to exude a wild streak, passion, and fire. I just noticed that some logos are not immediately legible, that feeds the mystique. The other benefit to a wild font like this is that you find it anywhere. It is a one of a kind, completely our own, original Haadi production.

However, the same can be said for a child's scribbling - unique but unappealing - no offense Zaid - you're getting there buddy


as Salaamu `aliakum

May Allah reward you for your efforts, Ameen.

These ones look nice actually---I just don't like the font for Haadi... It can be sorta hard to read and doesn't look very... "neat" (this is coming from the "neat freak" herself :o )

As for the last one... umm... how do I say this :) The colors kinda made me queasy!

Jazak Allahu KHairan...may Allah increase you in good, Ameen.

[UmmZahMar]

http://forums.almaghrib.org/images/icons/icon7.gif I don't blame you for being quesy-- the colors are a random mix to try and encourage some thought about what we like and don't like. There are too many combinations and I have difficulty with colors. Hopefully people can visualize their favorite color scheme with their favorite slogan.

Question though -- you say it looks good but you don't like the font? The font is basically the logo in this case. Did you mean the font of the slogan? I know it can frustrate a neat freak but that is kind of the idea behind tribal.

This was an attempt to exude a wild streak, passion, and fire. I just noticed that some logos are not immediately legible, that feeds the mystique. The other benefit to a wild font like this is that you find it anywhere. It is a one of a kind, completely our own, original Haadi production.

However, the same can be said for a child's scribbling - unique but unappealing - no offense Zaid - you're getting there buddy
Yes I was referring to the font for "Haadi" specifically, just my take on it.

You've got mail.

[vendi_s]

Assalaamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatu,

I have been reading all the Haadi posts and would love to contribute to the discussion (finally!). A few things to clear up first:

1. I read the thread about picking a slogan...is this still open to ideas or was the consensus and final pick "Where Guidance Strikes"? (Again, sorry for getting into the mix so late). As I was reading the thread something Aboo Zaid said really struck a chord.

...Also, the Bay Area is a place with a ton of organizations and places to learn. Bringing another one out has a lot of challenges, a lot of barriers to break, in order to get into that mix and be accepted as another organization trying to serve a unique need. By default I think new efforts here are skeptically viewed as a competitive group trying to wrangle control and political clout.

You have to prove otherwise, rather than being given the initial benefit of the doubt. Plus AlMaghrib to me ties directly to unity in the community through raising the overall level of knowledge, which helps know what the Rope of Allaah is so we can cling to it. So Unity is about breaking barriers, getting outside of jahl divisions, breaking down old habits and uniting around the haqq.

As someone who lives in San Francisco I have to agree with Aboo Zaid's insights, and one thing he said really stayed with me: "uniting around the haqq." Subhan'Allah this is exactly how Haadi has to position itself in order to get that acceptance in the Bay Area. So, I would like to propose another slogan:

Qabeelah Haadi | Uniting by the Haqq

Just an idea if the slogan board is still open. Also, something referencing the west coast is good since that's one of our claims to fame.

2. As far as the logo...I think it makes more sense strategically to be absolutely decided on a slogan before we can pick a logo. The logo should reflect what the slogan says in an illustrated form (i.e. like the California logo with the thunderbolt and the slogan "Where Guidance Strikes") - that was a good pictoral representation of the slogan. Just an idea but I think it would be easier for everyone involved to go about it in this order. Once we are locked in to a slogan we can come up with ways to illustrate it in an effective logo. On another note, I love the font in the lighthouse logo.

Once we are 100% decided on a slogan, I think it would help to brainstorm what we want people to think of when they hear the term "Haadi." Just brainstorming key words and associations will help because then we can focus our logo design efforts (not mine since I can't draw a stick figure) to appropriately convey that feeling through the use of font types and images. (I had some brief experience working at a branding agency and that was how we would start our exercises...we would ask the client what kind of image they wanted to convey and then we would just brainstorm - like you guys did on the slogan thread - and get rid of anything that didn't fit the association). It makes a big difference because, for example, if we want people to think of us as contemporary then the logo would use a san serif font (without the little tails..i.e. like Ariel, Verdana, etc.), but if we want people to get a sense of classical learning or something then the logo would use a serif font (with the little tails..like Times New Roman, etc.). Anyways this may seem lengthy but just thought I would throw that suggestion out since we are technically trying to brand ourselves and want this logo/slogan to last!

Wa salaam!

[muslimballer123]

i know i'm not in you guys' Qabeelah BUT i thought that the sword one was cool:)

[ummzaid]

Your feedback is most appreciated, jazakAllaahukhair.
It's different and uniqe from other logos I've ever seen. You can't avoid from not glancing at it twice, not because it makes me queasyhttp://forums.almaghrib.org/images/icons/icon7.gif or anything, but because it's intriguing. I must add the letter "D" is sharp!!

[Aboo Zaid]

Assalaam u alaykum

Here is a logo idea submitted by a sister who wishes to remain anonymous. May Allaah reward her for adding to the mix.

[muslimballer123]

Assalaam u alaykum

Here is a logo idea submitted by a sister who wishes to remain anonymous. May Allaah reward her for adding to the mix.
those look cool :)

[ikhlaas]

Assalaam u alaykum

Here is a logo idea submitted by a sister who wishes to remain anonymous. May Allaah reward her for adding to the mix.
walaykum assalam,

I like both of them mashaAllah :)

wassalam

[Aboo Zaid]

Jazakiallaahukhair Sr Vendi,

Some great points and that is why I have not yet closed the slogan thread and announced it, and I appreciate the patience of everyone. Many might be like: Come on Aboo Zaid, get on with it!

I hear you. However, to me it is positive that more people are still coming on and contributing like Ateeq Bhai for example came on real strong with 10 slogans just recently, mashallaah. And it goes with the logo - as Nadim pointed out and now Sr Vendi.

I don't think the slogan necessarily has to go first, although that is more natural. Working in parallel looking at different combos seems helpful too. Regarding Uniting by the Haqq, it certainly defines what we want to do and what we aspire toward.

My first impression of it though is that it is a bit forward. The word Haqq is so powerful and strong and for Haadi to openly proclaim that might not sit well with some, as if we have a monopoly on the Haqq. That is just how it comes across to me.

What logo concept do you lean toward? Did you see the crazy tribal set?

Barakallaahufiki





Assalaamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatu,

I have been reading all the Haadi posts and would love to contribute to the discussion (finally!). A few things to clear up first:

1. I read the thread about picking a slogan...is this still open to ideas or was the consensus and final pick "Where Guidance Strikes"? (Again, sorry for getting into the mix so late). As I was reading the thread something Aboo Zaid said really struck a chord.


As someone who lives in San Francisco I have to agree with Aboo Zaid's insights, and one thing he said really stayed with me: "uniting around the haqq." Subhan'Allah this is exactly how Haadi has to position itself in order to get that acceptance in the Bay Area. So, I would like to propose another slogan:

Qabeelah Haadi | Uniting by the Haqq

Just an idea if the slogan board is still open. Also, something referencing the west coast is good since that's one of our claims to fame.

2. As far as the logo...I think it makes more sense strategically to be absolutely decided on a slogan before we can pick a logo. The logo should reflect what the slogan says in an illustrated form (i.e. like the California logo with the thunderbolt and the slogan "Where Guidance Strikes") - that was a good pictoral representation of the slogan. Just an idea but I think it would be easier for everyone involved to go about it in this order. Once we are locked in to a slogan we can come up with ways to illustrate it in an effective logo. On another note, I love the font in the lighthouse logo.

Once we are 100% decided on a slogan, I think it would help to brainstorm what we want people to think of when they hear the term "Haadi." Just brainstorming key words and associations will help because then we can focus our logo design efforts (not mine since I can't draw a stick figure) to appropriately convey that feeling through the use of font types and images. (I had some brief experience working at a branding agency and that was how we would start our exercises...we would ask the client what kind of image they wanted to convey and then we would just brainstorm - like you guys did on the slogan thread - and get rid of anything that didn't fit the association). It makes a big difference because, for example, if we want people to think of us as contemporary then the logo would use a san serif font (without the little tails..i.e. like Ariel, Verdana, etc.), but if we want people to get a sense of classical learning or something then the logo would use a serif font (with the little tails..like Times New Roman, etc.). Anyways this may seem lengthy but just thought I would throw that suggestion out since we are technically trying to brand ourselves and want this logo/slogan to last!

Wa salaam!

[vendi_s]

Assalaamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatu,

I really like the font used on the lighthouse logo, but as far as concept idea I think the California logo with the lightening bolt pointing at the Bay Area is really cool, specifically for the "Where Guidance Strikes" slogan (I wonder how that logo with the lighthouse font would look?). Also, the first logo from the anonymous person is very nice, mash'Allah.

The sword logo is definitely a very nice logo, mash'Allah, but I browsed around the forums and it seems that other qabeelats also had that idea: http://forums.almaghrib.org/showthread.php?t=918&highlight=logo

Wa salaam =)

[AbuSmiley]

I like the one submitted by the Anonymous sister- the one with the Arabic font in the Shadow, we can play around with various fonts..But I like the Arabic english combo.

If we have someone who is good with flash, we could have it as an animated logo - where it could start with a Line and then expand to become the Logo...I think it will really look cool visually and with a dash of colour would be just right for the website... below is low quality gif version. Flash version play only once

[bintAziz]

the anonymous sister's, i really like both of them. I like the one with the lightning bolt a little more because it's atypical, and that was what really jumped at me.
Mashallah Fantastic!

[ummzaid]

I like the one submitted by the Anonymous sister- the one with the Arabic font in the Shadow, we can play around with various fonts..But I like the Arabic english combo.

If we have someone who is good with flash, we could have it as an animated logo - where it could start with a Line and then expand to become the Logo...I think it will really look cool visually and with a dash of colour would be just right for the website... below is low quality gif version. Flash version play only once
MashAllah, I like the idea. One thing I would like to comment about the Arabic English logo is I don't like the English writing over the Arabic writing. If it's possible I would like to see both and not one overlapping the other. Allahu'Alm.

[AbuSmiley]

How about the name in English and then its reflection right below it in Arabic.

..Now we really need an artist http://forums.almaghrib.org/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Aboo Zaid]

She's Back!

[vendi_s]

As-salaamu 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatu Haadians!

Now with the slogan poll closed it's time for us to get on the ball and finally pick a Haadi logo. Masha'Allah there were a couple of people submitting logos during our first round, but I know there must be many more creative Haadians - so come on...have fun with it and submit some logos!!

Think about it...a logo that you design can potentially become the official Haadi logo...think about all the bragging rights!

Let's see some Haadi creatitivity! Can't wait to see what gets submitted, insha'Allah.

Wa salaamu alaykum.