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Old 07-22-2005, 05:30 PM   #1
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Proof?

Well since you guys just took the class, what was the proof for the principle, that actions that are not Ibaadah, i.e Muamalat, is all Halaal until proven Haraam, like eating a Banana. One cant say its Haraam unless he has proof of that. I recall it being an Ayah from the Quran but I forgot, and I cant seem to find it in my notes. Any help would be great.
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:48 PM   #2
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Re: Proof?

uhhh...anyone there in Canada?
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:28 AM   #3
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Re: Proof?

salaamu alaikum wa Rahmatullah

alhumdulillah there's plenty of people in canada, we're just all busy studying inshaAllah


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what was the proof for the principle, that actions that are not Ibaadah, i.e Muamalat, is all Halaal until proven Haraam, like eating a Banana. One cant say its Haraam unless he has proof of that. I recall it being an Ayah from the Quran but I forgot, and I cant seem to find it in my notes. Any help would be great.
The 1st section of class was basically the Hukm Takleefee: Wajib (Fard), Tahreem (Haram), Mubah, Mustahab, Makrooh. How to recognize them and their levels etc.

After that the teacher talked about the Usool Principles related to Ahkaam At-Takleefee or "The Codes"

One of the codes states:
The default ruling in ibaadah is Haram, in other then ibaadah the default is Mubaaah.

this code basically states: anything that has to do with ibaadah is haram till proven halal. whereas, anything mubah (like eating banana) is permissible till proven haram (with authentic and on-target texts).

Here is the ayah listed under this code: "Say: 'Bring forward your witness to prove that Allah did forbid so and so.' If they bring such witnesses, be not thou amongst them: nor follow thou the vain desires of such as treat Our Signs as falsehoods and such as believe not in the Hereafter: for they hold others as equal with their Guardian-Lord" ~ An'aam 150

Another code states:
is mubaah an islamic injuction?

There's 2 types.

1) things that Allah ta'ala clearly said were halal and thus they are islamic injuctions and we have to accept their permissibility.
examples: see Maa'idah 1 and 96

2) things not mentioned in islamic texts. so if the act isn't ibaadah, then default ruling is that it's permissible. this isn't an islamic injuction though.
hadith regarding this: What Allah made halal in His book is halal. And what He made haram is His book is Haram. As for what he kept silent about, those things are from His grace, so accept this grace from Allah. Verily, Allah was never to have forgotten anything.

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Old 07-28-2005, 12:58 AM   #4
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salaamu alaikum wa Rahmatullah

alhumdulillah there's plenty of people in canada, we're just all busy studying inshaAllah


The 1st section of class was basically the Hukm Takleefee: Wajib (Fard), Tahreem (Haram), Mubah, Mustahab, Makrooh. How to recognize them and their levels etc.

After that the teacher talked about the Usool Principles related to Ahkaam At-Takleefee or "The Codes"

One of the codes states:
The default ruling in ibaadah is Haram, in other then ibaadah the default is Mubaaah.

this code basically states: anything that has to do with ibaadah is haram till proven halal. whereas, anything mubah (like eating banana) is permissible till proven haram (with authentic and on-target texts).

Here is the ayah listed under this code: "Say: 'Bring forward your witness to prove that Allah did forbid so and so.' If they bring such witnesses, be not thou amongst them: nor follow thou the vain desires of such as treat Our Signs as falsehoods and such as believe not in the Hereafter: for they hold others as equal with their Guardian-Lord" ~ An'aam 150

Another code states:
is mubaah an islamic injuction?

There's 2 types.

1) things that Allah ta'ala clearly said were halal and thus they are islamic injuctions and we have to accept their permissibility.
examples: see Maa'idah 1 and 96

2) things not mentioned in islamic texts. so if the act isn't ibaadah, then default ruling is that it's permissible. this isn't an islamic injuction though.
hadith regarding this: What Allah made halal in His book is halal. And what He made haram is His book is Haram. As for what he kept silent about, those things are from His grace, so accept this grace from Allah. Verily, Allah was never to have forgotten anything.

Allahu 'alam
JazaakAllah Khairun for the info. I always look back at my notes, and tried to find the reference, but could never find it. Now I have it, Alhumdulillah. Did you happen to get where the Hadith is referenced in?
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:08 AM   #5
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salaamu alaikum wa RahmatUllahi wa Barakatuhu

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JazaakAllah Khairun for the info. I always look back at my notes, and tried to find the reference, but could never find it. Now I have it, Alhumdulillah. Did you happen to get where the Hadith is referenced in?
the hadith was in the usool al-fiqh book given at the seminar under the code: is mubaah an islamic injuction? it doesn't state wether it's from Bukhari or Muslism etc
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Old 08-08-2005, 03:44 PM   #6
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What Allah has made lawful in His Book is halal and what He has forbidden is haram, and that concerning which He is silent is allowed as His favor. So accept from Allah His favor, for Allah is not forgetful of anything. He then recited, "And thy Lord is not forgetful." (19:64)(This hadith was reported by al-Hakim, classified as sahih (sound), and quoted by al-Bazzar.)

Salman al-Farsi reported that when the Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) was asked about animal fat, cheese, and fur, he replied, "The halal is that which Allah has made lawful in His Book and the haram is that which He has forbidden, and that concerning which He is silent He has permitted as a favor to you." (Reported by al-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah.)


Allah has prescribed certain obligations for you, so do not neglect them; He has defined certain limits, so do not transgress them; He has prohibited certain things, so do not do them; and He has kept silent concerning other things out of mercy for you and not because of forgetfulness, so do not ask questions concerning them. (Reported by aI-Darqutni and classified as hasan (good) by al-Nawawi.)


Refrenced by Yusuf Qaradawi in his book regarding "The Lawful and Prohibited in Islam"

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Old 08-08-2005, 09:55 PM   #7
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What Allah has made lawful in His Book is halal and what He has forbidden is haram, and that concerning which He is silent is allowed as His favor. So accept from Allah His favor, for Allah is not forgetful of anything. He then recited, "And thy Lord is not forgetful." (19:64)(This hadith was reported by al-Hakim, classified as sahih (sound), and quoted by al-Bazzar.)

Salman al-Farsi reported that when the Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) was asked about animal fat, cheese, and fur, he replied, "The halal is that which Allah has made lawful in His Book and the haram is that which He has forbidden, and that concerning which He is silent He has permitted as a favor to you." (Reported by al-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah.)


Allah has prescribed certain obligations for you, so do not neglect them; He has defined certain limits, so do not transgress them; He has prohibited certain things, so do not do them; and He has kept silent concerning other things out of mercy for you and not because of forgetfulness, so do not ask questions concerning them. (Reported by aI-Darqutni and classified as hasan (good) by al-Nawawi.)


Refrenced by Yusuf Qaradawi in his book regarding "The Lawful and Prohibited in Islam"

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Jazakum Allahu Khayr
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