Clarification on Iyyaka Ureed

Sara Saker · 11-15-2005, 07:22 PM

Assalamu 'alaikoum,

Someone please verify this. Perhaps I understood this completely wrong - maybe I was slouching on the chair or missed some of the notes. When Sheikh Muhammad spoke of what Khalid wrote - Iyyaka Ureed --> It is you I seek/want - I thought he had written it to his enemy saying, it's you I seek, meaning your death or destruction, but then I read this:

قال ابن كثير في "البداية و النهاية" في أحداث سنة إثني عشر للهجرة: (لمَّا قدم الوليد بن عقبة على الصِّديق بالخمس، ردَّه الصِّديق إلى عياض بن غنم مدداً له وهو محاصر دومة الجندل، فلمَّا قدم عليه وجده في ناحية من العراق يحاصر قوماً وهم قد أخذوا عليه الطُّرق فهو محصور أيضاً، فقال عياض للوليد‏:‏ إنَّ بعض الرَّأي خير من جيش كثيف، ماذا ترى فيما نحن فيه ‏؟‏ فقال له الوليد‏:‏ اكتب إلى خالد يمدَّك بجيش من عنده‏.‏ فكتب إليه يستمدَّه فقدم كتابه على خالد عقِب وقعة عين التَّمر وهو يستغيث به‏.‏ فكتب إليه: من خالد إلى عياض‏؛‏ إيَّاك أري.

So, up until now, I thought Khalid had written this to his enemy -- I guess I'm wrong. My apologies for those who cannot read the Arabic - it basically says that during 'Aynul Tamr battle, that Khalid wrote the "iyyaka ureed - it's you I want/seek" statement to 'Iyaadh bin Ghanam to get his help. Point is --> Regardless of who the message was sent to, Khalid needed not write more than two words to get his message across - unlike me

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heavens_scent · 11-15-2005, 08:05 PM

Yeah thanx sara is that from albidaya wanihayaa?

however, i wanted to ask u doesnt that say " iyyakaa Ara'a?"
i dont see no Daal there?

Sara Saker · 11-15-2005, 08:15 PM

Oh,

, I did that by mistake. It had a blue smiley face, so I took it out, I think in return it ate one of the letters up. Here it is correctly:

من خالد إلى عياض‏؛‏ إيَّاك أريد

It's not from the book, no, it was from an arabic website: http://www.tawhed.ws/r?i=3282

Ooo, look what I also found in it:

وصدق القائل: من كثُر كلامه، قل عمله.

Wowza - roughly translated: The one who talks a lot, does very little. If anyone can translate these neat sayings better, please do, I feel bad that my translations are so weak.

Asmaa Hussein · 11-15-2005, 08:18 PM

Khalid ibn Waleed got a letter from 'Iyaadh ibn Ghanim that his army was needed. So Khalid wrote back with those two words "Iyyakah ureed" - by the time 'Iyaadh got the letter and opened it, he looked up and saw Khalid and his army arriving. That's how fast Khalid (ra) was, his army would travel at the speed of one rider...

Sara Saker · 11-15-2005, 08:25 PM

JazakiAllah khair Asma for the much better translation

Sairish · 11-16-2005, 04:14 AM

i think i missed that part in the class, how cool!

heavens_scent · 11-16-2005, 09:40 AM

Iyyaka ureed... Jazakallahu for the clearification
it jus sounds so cool saying it

-ilmseeker- · 11-16-2005, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sairish

i think i missed that part in the class, how cool!

me too!
JazakAllah Khairn Sara for bringing this up!

fLoW · 11-16-2005, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmaa_H

Khalid ibn Waleed got a letter from 'Iyaadh ibn Ghanim that his army was needed. So Khalid wrote back with those two words "Iyyakah ureed" - by the time 'Iyaadh got the letter and opened it, he looked up and saw Khalid and his army arriving. That's how fast Khalid (ra) was, his army would travel at the speed of one rider...

imagine! gave me an emanrush rite there.

abudakku · 11-22-2005, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmaa_H

Khalid ibn Waleed got a letter from 'Iyaadh ibn Ghanim that his army was needed. So Khalid wrote back with those two words "Iyyakah ureed" - by the time 'Iyaadh got the letter and opened it, he looked up and saw Khalid and his army arriving. That's how fast Khalid (ra) was, his army would travel at the speed of one rider...

Subhanallah that was one of the coolest and useful things i learned in the class Jazkhallah for re sharing it

11-15-2005, 07:22 PM	#1
Sara Saker Qabeelat Majd Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Banu Maysarah Posts: 301	Clarification on Iyyaka Ureed Assalamu 'alaikoum, Someone please verify this. Perhaps I understood this completely wrong - maybe I was slouching on the chair or missed some of the notes. When Sheikh Muhammad spoke of what Khalid wrote - Iyyaka Ureed --> It is you I seek/want - I thought he had written it to his enemy saying, it's you I seek, meaning your death or destruction, but then I read this: قال ابن كثير في "البداية و النهاية" في أحداث سنة إثني عشر للهجرة: (لمَّا قدم الوليد بن عقبة على الصِّديق بالخمس، ردَّه الصِّديق إلى عياض بن غنم مدداً له وهو محاصر دومة الجندل، فلمَّا قدم عليه وجده في ناحية من العراق يحاصر قوماً وهم قد أخذوا عليه الطُّرق فهو محصور أيضاً، فقال عياض للوليد‏:‏ إنَّ بعض الرَّأي خير من جيش كثيف، ماذا ترى فيما نحن فيه ‏؟‏ فقال له الوليد‏:‏ اكتب إلى خالد يمدَّك بجيش من عنده‏.‏ فكتب إليه يستمدَّه فقدم كتابه على خالد عقِب وقعة عين التَّمر وهو يستغيث به‏.‏ فكتب إليه: من خالد إلى عياض‏؛‏ إيَّاك أري. So, up until now, I thought Khalid had written this to his enemy -- I guess I'm wrong. My apologies for those who cannot read the Arabic - it basically says that during 'Aynul Tamr battle, that Khalid wrote the "iyyaka ureed - it's you I want/seek" statement to 'Iyaadh bin Ghanam to get his help. Point is --> Regardless of who the message was sent to, Khalid needed not write more than two words to get his message across - unlike me ! __________________ "This is a story about four people named: Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody. There was an important Job to be done, and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. Somebody got angry about that, because it was Everybody’s job. Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody would not do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done! " طرقت الباب حتى كل متني * فلما كل متني كلمتني قالت يا إسماعيل صبرا * قلت يا أسماء عيل صبري

11-15-2005, 08:05 PM	#2
heavens_scent Qabeelat Majd Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,007	Re: Clarification on Iyyaka Ureed Yeah thanx sara is that from albidaya wanihayaa? however, i wanted to ask u doesnt that say " iyyakaa Ara'a?" i dont see no Daal there? __________________

11-15-2005, 08:15 PM	#3
Sara Saker Qabeelat Majd Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Banu Maysarah Posts: 301	Re: Clarification on Iyyaka Ureed Oh, , I did that by mistake. It had a blue smiley face, so I took it out, I think in return it ate one of the letters up. Here it is correctly: من خالد إلى عياض‏؛‏ إيَّاك أريد It's not from the book, no, it was from an arabic website: http://www.tawhed.ws/r?i=3282 Ooo, look what I also found in it: وصدق القائل: من كثُر كلامه، قل عمله. Wowza - roughly translated: The one who talks a lot, does very little. If anyone can translate these neat sayings better, please do, I feel bad that my translations are so weak.

11-15-2005, 08:18 PM	#4
Asmaa Hussein Ameerah, Qabeelat Majd Join Date: May 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 343	Re: Clarification on Iyyaka Ureed Khalid ibn Waleed got a letter from 'Iyaadh ibn Ghanim that his army was needed. So Khalid wrote back with those two words "Iyyakah ureed" - by the time 'Iyaadh got the letter and opened it, he looked up and saw Khalid and his army arriving. That's how fast Khalid (ra) was, his army would travel at the speed of one rider... __________________ *Qabeelat Majd\|Tribe of Glory*

11-15-2005, 08:25 PM	#5
Sara Saker Qabeelat Majd Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Banu Maysarah Posts: 301	Re: Clarification on Iyyaka Ureed JazakiAllah khair Asma for the much better translation __________________ "This is a story about four people named: Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody. There was an important Job to be done, and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. Somebody got angry about that, because it was Everybody’s job. Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody would not do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done! " طرقت الباب حتى كل متني * فلما كل متني كلمتني قالت يا إسماعيل صبرا * قلت يا أسماء عيل صبري

11-16-2005, 04:14 AM	#6
Sairish Qabeelat Majd Join Date: May 2005 Location: Scarborough, T.O. Posts: 595	Re: Clarification on Iyyaka Ureed i think i missed that part in the class, how cool! __________________ Qabeelat Majd With Ilm Comes Glory

11-16-2005, 09:40 AM	#7
heavens_scent Qabeelat Majd Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,007	Re: Clarification on Iyyaka Ureed Iyyaka ureed... Jazakallahu for the clearification it jus sounds so cool saying it __________________

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