The Millionaire who went to Jannah

[Muhammad Alshareef]

This topic really strikes a cord with you and you seem to have some deep rooted beliefs (i would say strongly emotional attachments to these beliefs - as we all do to some extent).

Can you tell us more about yourself shiningseasons?

[Hashim]

Shiningseasons, jazakillah khair, you provided an insight into your life and the problems you face. However, your generalisation, upon generalisation and comparing your personal circumstances to anothers profession (in this case, Muslim life coaches) is rather rudimentary.

Its akin to comparing your personal and financial situation to say, a (practising) Muslim family doctor, who earns a six figure salary (and additional bonuses for meeting targets). An average working day of a GP in the UK is 6 hours (3 hour sessions in the morning and afternoon) for 4 days/week and 6 weeks holidays + bank holidays.

The acid test is: Would you question or dismiss his credentials and expertise in favour of your knowledge of medicine and diganosis, regardless of how many medical books you've read? Of course not. Ditto.

Just because he's Muslim he can't be criticised for his earning potential. The same for Muslim coaches. We shouldn't be quick to cast dispersions.

Clearly wealth is a blessing from Allah, to some he gives little and to so some plenty; both should be thankful of what they have.

[1/2AWiseMan]

wa alaikum assalaam

jazakallahukhair for sharing your thoughts shiningseasons

regarding your last post - i wouldn't discard the concept of Ihsan from creating wealth, because it is also a part of Islam. (if that's what you meant)

if someone were to earn substantial amounts of money for the sake of Allah and abide by the rules of Shariah pertaining to business, that business person can very well be a Muhsin.

[Ottmuslima]

I think Br Al Shareef is doing a great service masha Allah. I believe that life coaching is something that all Muslims should learn about, it's so Islamic and a wonderful way for righteous deeds.

salam
if I was to add my 2 cents, I think that islamic coaching in the way Sheick Muhammad is practicing, is EXACTLY what the Ummah needs in our times. May Allah SWT rewards him greatly for his work

[Hashim]

Amidst the brave front, there is an emotional plea for help and attention.

Anyway, I think it's back to the 'Millionaire who went to Jannah'.

I love the title but love the ad more!

Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR6ZaqlTEfU

[1/2AWiseMan]

...in any case

The Millionaire who went to Jannah starts this weekend...i'm looking to make
some arrangements to make it to the workshop, inshaAllah

anybody still on the fence?

what are you looking to learn from it?
why haven't you jumped on board yet?
etc.


just curious...

take care, waslaam alaikum.
Nahyan

[mahmoudm]

It will definately be a great event insha'Allah. I was on the fence but then I fell. I have exams during the seminar and I also have al-maghrib exam. The price is reasonable compared to other non-Muslims similar events, but I still didnt reach the stage where I can pay this price with full comfort. Soon insha'Allah. I wish the best for everyone that is going. And give our salams to our shaykh Mohammad hafidahullah.

[sireen]

Originally Posted by shiningseasons

I am referring to he never became so rich and materialist enjoying big houses, cars, hoarding wealth, which is obviously all about satisfying our egos which is totally antithetical to Islam. Or are you saying that I am wrong?

Clearly becoming more material not the goal of Islamic teachings. We are going to leave this dunya and everything in it, the only thing we take in our graves are our deeds. Or are you saying that I am wrong? Now are you ridiculing a plethora of Quran verses about Islamic altruism - kindness, unity, helping the poor and other Islamic teachings by other knowledgeable brothers about our values and spiritual morality?

Are you feeding your nafs in order to become a millionaire?

What did the Prophet pbuh teach us? To become materialist and millionaires? Was this his purpose in this world? What is our goal towards Allah? To show Allah how rich and filled with an empty conscious we are? Have you read verse in the Quran about the helping the poor, because if you did you would never resort to personal attacks for another Muslim encouraging empathy, kindness and charity which is our Islamic obligation.

Assalamu Alaikum,

Shiningseasons, I'm not sure if you got the chance to listen to the trailer of this event on youtube...I think you might like to listen to the hadeeth Sheikh Muhammad Al-Shareef narrates in it...You can get to it by searching this in youtube: DiscoverU Life - The Millionaire Who Went To Jannah

In the video, the sheikh narrates the story where the poor companions complained to the prophet peace be upon him about the rich companions. They said that the people of wealth have ran away with all the good deeds. They pray like we pray, they fast like we fast, and they give sadaqah (charity, not zakah) from what remains of their wealth. The prophet pbuh taught them that Allah has given them that which they can give sadaqa with for verily, every tasbeeha is a sadaqah, every subhanaAllah, alhamdulillah, and Allahu akbar is a sadaqah.....on with all the different ways to give a sadaqah...

You know what the cool part is though? the continuation of the hadeeth!! The wealthy companions heard this hadeeth as well and so they started to implement the extra ways of giving charity...the poor companions went back to the prophet and they said: "they're even doing that!"...the prophet pbuh replied to them: This is the fadl (gift?) of Allah swt and He gives it to whomever He wishes!

Basically sister, there is nothing wrong with obtaining wealth (and very large amounts of it as well!!!) if one is paying their Zakah and giving in Charity...It's not always about hoarding wealth and satisfying egos...What's wrong with having a nice car and a big house? The owner of such things may have a better intention than a poor muslim doubting the intentions of the rich one!

If you didn't have rich Muslims, things would never be balanced! Who would support those incapable or disabled, single mothers, the older generation who have no one left to care for them, new muslims who have been disowned by their non-muslim families...the list goes on and on!

There's nothing wrong with becoming a muslim millionaire. No one knows the ego of this person or his intentions. They may be helping the poor, giving in charity, and praying their nightly tahajjud, more than anyone else in the world!

We need the wealth we just gotta keep our intentions straight while we work for it and after we get it so that we may be getting ajer for all of our actions inshaAllah

Who said that all those muslims who want to be millionaires are doing it because they want the materialism in life? What if they want to help even MORE poor and needy with their extra million bucks? Are we in their hearts to decide what they will do with their money? And whether or not they are sincere about it?

This basically boils down to the common question: which is better, the patient poor or the thankful rich

Relax guys, there's a difference of opinion alhamdulillah!

[Mubarak]

Interesting twist to this thread

The conversation went from a seminar to the issue of the benefits/challenges of becoming a Muslims millionaire (which by the way, I have some opinions on). You know what, I actually dying to comment on some points made by Sr. Sireen but for the sake of ending a discussion that seems to have faded with the departure of ShinningSeasons, I should hold back? Ok. I will. **Breaths out** InshAllah.

By the way, ShinningSeasons, for what its worth (and probably not much since you’ve left the forums), you’ve mentioned some really good points in your post (#55). But what tends to happen in many forum conversations is that people who read a post often misunderstand the points made or the focus intended by the poster so what we (the forum users) should do is, make excuses for them. At the end of the day, we're all Muslims and in our hearts, without a doubt, we all respect each other and love one another for the sake of Allah. Smiles all around Hope you come back to the forums inshAllah.

May Allah unite our hearts as believers

[sireen]

Originally Posted by Mubarak

You know what, I actually dying to comment on some points made by Sr. Sireen but for the sake of ending a discussion that seems to have faded with the departure of ShinningSeasons, I should hold back? Ok. I will. **Breaths out** InshAllah.

Assalamu Alaikum,

I would like to know if I had said anything which is wrong in any way so that I may learn inshaAllah...I don't plan on leaving the forums anytime soon lol..

Jazakum Allahu khairan...

Originally Posted by shiningseasons

Dear Sireen

Assalamualaikum,

You are side tracking on to another area of this subject, without reading or understanding the main issue. Anyone can cut and paste someone out of context without bothering to find out what the discussion was about to whom and to what they were responding to.

It must have been a really hard task for the first Muslims to convey the Prophet's message ~ sigh!

I am sorry for making you feel that way..., I actually did read the whole thing but I just had some different thoughts about the things I quoted of you....

Anyways please do forgive me! Jazakillahu khairan